Usuário Discussão:Chicocvenancio/projeto

Maryana's comments

• You have a lot of very critical and very complex things on the table here, and I think it's absolutely right to start prioritizing them based on urgency and importance. There's another component that's equally important: difficulty. Rewriting documentation or template language may be somewhat boring work, but it's not hard to do once it's generally agreed that it needs to be done. Building an effective ArbCom or redefining the role of admins is another matter entirely – it's going to take a tremendous amount of time and discussion, and in the end there may be no agreement reached on how exactly these things should be achieved. (On English Wikipedia, a WikiProject devoted to Request for adminship reform has been stuck on this problem for a year now and so far hasn't been able to get unstuck from it.) Just keep in mind that there's always a cost-benefit analysis involved: do you want to spend a year discussing one huge, abstract problem, or do you want to start solving the smaller, more concrete problems right away?
• For the things that are easy to get general community agreement on but are hard and tedious to complete, the "boring work" problem is, I think, not as bad as you might imagine. Wikipedians do "boring work" all the time: enjoying and taking pride in tasks that most people would consider quite strange and unappealing is what makes us Wikipedians :) There are a lot of lessons to be learned from successful projects and drives. On English Wikipedia, two good examples are the Guild of copyeditors and the Disambiguation challenge, which found ways of incentivizing small, repetitive tasks on a large number of articles. There are probably equally successful examples on PT – you should talk to the people who started them and/or who look like they're doing a lot of the organizing work. Leaderboards seem to work really well, as does making a list of tasks available and continually reaching out to participants on their talk pages to get them done.
• With all that in mind, I'd say pick the three or four things that are minimally controversial but maximally urgent/important and focus on doing them really well. For me, just instinctively, those would be template rewriting, documentation language improvement, and confusing interface/system changes. But I don't know what's hard or controversial in your community, so that's just a guess, and you should prioritize your big list as you and the other PT Wikipedians see fit.
• So, maybe these should be your first tasks:

1. working with the community on a list of changes that could be made, starting from smallest/easiest and ending at biggest/hardest, and then cutting that list down to just the things that are relatively easy, urgent, and important (some research might be useful here, but there is already a good deal of stuff out there to guide you)
2. getting in touch with some leaders from various WikiProjects and doing a little investigating into how they've managed to organize and lead good work

I'm curious about the above myself, and I think it's a really valuable thing to do. Let me know if I can be of any assistance with hunting people down for you :) Maryana (WMF) (discussão) 18h11min de 21 de março de 2012 (UTC)