Wikipédia:Robôs/Pedidos de aprovação/King Willan Bot

King Willan Bot

pedido • edições • contador • logs • block user • block log • flag log • flag bot • SUL util

Operator: King Willan Bot

Automatic or Manually Assisted:Automatic, unsupervised 3/4 times

Programming Language(s):Python (pywikipedia)

Function Summary:Interwiki

Edit period(s) (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run):Continuons

Edit rate requested: 20 edits per Hour

Already has a bot flag (Y/N):Bot flag on : no:User:King Willan Bot and vo:User:King Willan Bot.

Function Details:It is a bot for interwiki. En-1 and Fr

Discussion

It is normal, my bot don't edits on your wiki? I need the bot flag for bot edits? It is for it I don't have edits on your wiki?--King Willan Bot (discussão) 18h17min de 2 de Fevereiro de 2008 (UTC)

• Esse problema esta sendo tratado no wikipedia frances, pois este usuario nao entende muito bem como funciona o programa, nem corretamente o ingles para poder responder as mensagens que lhe serao enviadas. Chico75 (discussão) 20h31min de 2 de Fevereiro de 2008 (UTC)
  • I understand the English and the program, I think the problem where from that: console_encoding = 'utf-8'
  • Or, this wiki need the bot flag for edits pages with bot.--King Willan Bot (discussão) 21h02min de 2 de Fevereiro de 2008 (UTC)

Comment from fr:NicDumZ

Hello !

Some bot owners here might already know me, I am NicDumZ, an experienced French bot owner running DumZiBoT on fr: (see stats), on en:, and on de:.

After some hesitations on whether I should do this or not, I go on every wiki where this user has requested a flag to comment his request : One could not deny that King Willan is showing good willingness, seems very honest and motivated, and that he could be trusted; Still, on fr:, his home wiki, we have denied his bot flag request. Upon discussion, it turns out that King Willan is a bit young and that he is not experienced at all in interwikis and bot handling :

• When asked about some dubious edits his bot made (e.g. [1] and [2]), he answered (rough translation) Well, the program asked me what to do; I checked the first foreign interwiki, then clicked on the fr: interwiki from the foreign page; Since it didn't bring me back to my originating page, I removed the interwikis. I think that this is showing some serious misunderstanding of the interwiki system, proving that this user is not qualified enough in interwiki handling.
• We explained him that he was mistaken on these particular edits, and why : he answered back that his pywikipedia copy was out of date (he downloaded a 08/2007 snapshot from sourceforge), and that surely the framework had misleaded him and that it wasn't his fault. :s
• He asked on several places technical questions on pywikipedia, proving that he does not know how this framework works, and probably that he does not understand python :
  • On the French Village Pump : fr:Wikipédia:Le Bistro/29 janvier 2008#Pywikipedia where he asks how -start works
  • On the flag request page : fr:Wikipédia:Bot/Statut#Bot allez plus vite? (section title is Bot more fast? with a French fault) where he asks how he can speed up his bot (why should he need it to do this ? Sounds to me that he is somewhat in the wrong direction)
• I strongly believe that he his not able to speak or understand English enough to communicate with other projects, to explain what he did, or simply to understand their policies:
  • The technical questions he asked have easy answers in English in the documentation of the framework.
  • When I went on his de: and en: requests to comment them, he asked me to translate in French what I wrote (diff: [3])
  • Moreover, this diff [4], where he states "The bad version no take this fonction. My version take now this fonction" is quite... significant. :(

We're trying to see what can be done, on fr:, to teach him to use his tools properly, but for all the reasons stated above, I consider that, as of now, letting him have a botflag on so many projects at once would be very, very treacherous.

I will not be monitoring this page; Please, let me now on my French talk page if you have any questions, remarks, or if any further discussion goes on here.

Thanks a lot.

NicDumZ ~ 14h41min de 5 de Fevereiro de 2008 (UTC)

After this comment, the request was archived. Alex Pereira^falaê 12h35min de 7 de Fevereiro de 2008 (UTC)